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On July 06, 2005 2:01 PM,
And the skills that A. Campbell has honed so successfully with the Lions in NZ will doubtless be expensively deployed. Vomit-provoking.
On July 06, 2005 2:58 PM,
It doesn't help Londoners at all, for the information. We'll be paying for this until after I'm dead, if Montreal's experience is anything to go by.
On July 06, 2005 3:09 PM,
Speaking as Devil's Advocate (and one who stands to make a killing in 2012 to boot): you bunch of cynical bastards!
On July 06, 2005 3:33 PM,
I wish you'd tell John B all that, he doesn't believe me. Can't think why!
On July 06, 2005 5:33 PM,
"We'll be paying for this until after I'm dead, if Montreal's experience is anything to go by."
Or, it'll be massively successful and within budget, if Sydney's experience is anything to go by. Or, it'll cost a bit but will finally get assorted important bits of infrastructure built, if Athens's experience is anything to go by. Any justification for Montreal.
On July 06, 2005 5:34 PM,
Err, "any justification for picking Montreal as your example?", even.
On July 06, 2005 5:48 PM,
Just a quick question (and a style-theft) as someone who's not lived in the UK for a while: is it always only the overbudget failures that get in the news then, or can anyone name me a major state-supported project in Britain under NuLabour that hasn't gone overbudget and/or been a failure? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
On July 06, 2005 5:55 PM,
Katie, when I was growing up in the 50s, the standard tease to Labour canvassers was to say "groundnuts", an allusion to a ludicrous, failed, over-budget government scheme. A friend says that the only technological decision that a British government has ever got right was Churchill's, to change the fleet from coal-burning to oil-burning!!!! That was before The Great War.
On July 06, 2005 8:39 PM,
it-ch shport innit? how can you dis shport? A bit of shport is going to save the world innit?
On July 06, 2005 11:23 PM,
As someone above suggests why pick on Montreal? There are examples of successful games with a good legacy.
Furthermore, the UK has a good record of running international sporting events: Manchester Commonwealth Games and Euro 96. But don't let that stop you excreting (good word) the cynical diatribe! ;-)
On July 07, 2005 11:13 AM,
Dearieme, Churchill made another huge, technological decision at the same time as the switch from coal to oil-powered ships. He decided that the new Queen Elizabth class 'dreadnoughts' should be armed with 15" guns which 'expert' opinion thought were unworkable. He inisted that the ships were built in tandem with the new gun development, and much to everyone's relief, the new guns worked. You can see a pair of them outside the Imperial War Museum.
You can bring dinner parties to a complete halt with facts like that. Not that I would know these days, because I'm not invited to many dinner parties!
On July 07, 2005 11:26 AM,
Sporting successes are the bedrock of British national pride these days. Just hark back to November 2003 when every schoolchild in the country was pretending to kick rugby balls using the exact mannerisms of Jonny.
London doing the Olympics well (even for a loss) should guarantee us a FIFA world cup by 2022 - which will be profitable.
On July 07, 2005 2:57 PM,
Look here, Duff, how dare you trump my yarn? More seriously, the UK government did get the atom bomb right (you know of course that the Admiralty held the patent) and then eventually got a fast-asleep US govt to take up the baton, not least by employing Einstein as a British agent and getting him to help harass the sleepyheads into action.
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